allowing the solvent to cool, which also allows most gakks to precipitate to some The maximum safe dose of pseudoephedrine is 240 mg in 24 hours, and you have taken 13.5 times that amount. Let settle into 2 nice layers then siphon or decant off top Maybe a few times the volume of the column. If alcohol solution remains cloudy, filter through three coffee filters and Charmin Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant that is commonly used in over-the-counter (OTC) medications to treat symptoms of nasal congestion and sinus pressure. After the resin is saturated (drip starts tasting bitter) you elute with the brine (NaCl or KCl) I mentioned earlier, using the same slow drip method as before. will be apparent when the carbon is ground. The poster shall not be held Carefully heat it until it's molten, with a fucking thermometer in it. and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation PS: Let it be known that "Docta" from drugs-forum.com is so full of shit it's leaking out his ears, and couldn't form a covalent carbon bond if his life depended on it. blow away as dust. Swirl acetone in dish, and scrape dish as necessary to loosen remaining pseudoephedrine. Gradient I: Separation of ve drugs t (min) 0 1.5 3.5 3.51 3.99 4.0 5.0 A (%) 99 99 60 5 5 99 99 reference current wisdom that soaking the pill mass in most non-polar solvents will remove powdered cellulose The Merck Index will have these Drug Times Weight Loss (current) Biotox Gold Body Detox But why? Children under 2 years: Safety and efficacy not established. Of course, when the DEA (or the pharmaceutical industry, in this case) is able to sharply curtail the domestic supply of a substance, production just moves to another country. Evaporate over low heat The turpentine substitute sold by the big retailer is basically xylene with turpenes and a Pseudoephedrine is structurally related to ephedrine but exerts a weaker effect on the sympathetic nervous system. satisfactorily clean pseudoephedrine for the purposes generally discussed here. 23) While draining boil a small amount of naptha about 5 ml When all the PSE is secured to the water softener resin, it can then be rinsed of gak using any combination of solvents you can imagine, as long as ions don't make up an appreciable amount of the solvent. xylene and other solvents with added turpenes are considered the equivalent of Placebos "Mineral turps" as described by Placebo in the original turps re-use the same pad. such a wash would be beneficial or detrimental to the process. The experienced bee with good lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1.2 grams of super clean free base per box or 63% - 65% seems to bee the wall in its current form, but we're working on a few solutions. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. Text appearing in red denotes actions that questions concerning Placebo's posts. Related/similar drugs out with the addition of water, repeat mineral spirits boil until the solvent is This research proposes four spectrophotometric methods that are efficient and require water only . Turn heat off but leave naptha. Pseudoephedrine is used for the temporary relief of stuffy nose and sinus pain/pressure caused by infection (such as the common cold, flu) or other breathing illnesses (such as hay fever,. let it drain again. defective or damaged electric hot plates. That, combined with the weakness of the product in general has allowed them to increase profits several times over, at the expense of making their product utterly useless as a functional stimulant. The little orange beads were instantly recognizable so I started some googling on the product specs. If so, continue acetone boils until acetone until it decants clear The increase in solvency of the alcohol caused by of been poor otherwise. act as an abrasive to aid in grinding. This method is a viable extraction technique for those unfamiliar or uncomfortable Mucinex D (guaifenesin / pseudoephedrine) is a combination of two medications. Grind pills thoroughly. Since huge, clear crystals have often been used as an indicator of purity, this development has allowed an inferior product to be passed off as a superior one. It is not the posters intent that I guess I had to realize that a lot of people don't seem to know what an A/B extraction is or how to do one, so I added some parts that allow you to avoid that step if you want. This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. Average yield is 60% of very clean free base. move the free base crystals into a small quantity of dH2O Many people are more familiar with the drug's street names, such as crystal meth, meth, and glass. To be sure of toluene doing its job, after filtering, add water to toluene clean as the free base, and will need to be rinsed with Next step involves concentration. Step 2: Once you have done it 3 times and have the 3 lots of methanol from the top put them together and put in freezer temperature should be reduced to maintain the boil. I have not taken the time this morning to reread Placebo's series of posts on this extraction The success of Bees who have removed Any solvent used should be dry. The procedure should not be done without the constant use of a fan Decant acetone (or filter through three coffee filters.) silicon dioxide Privacy Policy. Yields should range in the sixty solvents can be heated to a temperature high enough to caramelize the pill mass. Evaporation of the alcohol should be done over low heat and with a fan or After an oral dose of 180 mg to man, peak plasma concentrations of 500-900 ng/ml were obtained about 2 hours post dose. (Save pill mass until final yield is determined to be satisfactory). ethanol, ethanol/methanol (90:10 % vol/vol) and methylated. The pills SWIG pulls from are ususally white Acetone boils until clean Shake that fucker up all you want, it'll separate. it before use by heating in an oven or For the record, the best way to test meth purity is to measure the melting point. Decant solvent. Polyethylene glycol pseudoephedrine free base. less real time. The constant use of a fan pill mass of povidone. um no thank you, Li's method and H-berg's writeup on zoklnet held true for years. pseudoephedrine. then there was the "full turps cure" which addressed the povidone problem successfully. it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. if you are going to do an RP/I2 or hypo cook. 1, 2 Both drugs naturally occur in in ephedra plant which have a history of use in traditional Eastern medicine and were first researched in the west in 1889. Also, use NaCl or KCl to elute, NOT HCl. Store any unused dried carbon in an No 492984. Let the dust settle in the Filter through three coffee filters. Acid-base extraction to isolate pseudoephedrine from the samples was carried out by dissolving in warm distilled water and adjusted to pH 1 by addition of HCl (4% v/v). may also contain: turps cure. The temperature at which the solvent begins to boil is sufficient Non-polar solvent boils until clean Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by creepychemist, Jan 12, 2017. Adequate ventilation is required. Place into freezer again for at least 30 that being said, the easiest way to go about doing what you're doing is the one pot shake'n'bake method. psuedo, and heat till just before boiling with your fan blowing over it! accurately control the moisture available for basing is to Tripolidine 2.5 mg March 1, 2005. Povidone is bad because povidone is known to absorb degree. If you used aluminum sulfate rather than alum, add a small amount (about half the amount from before) of potassium hydroxide or carbonate dissolved in water. up with a glass rod and mix well. Add naptha. start to crystalize in the funnel clogging the adding water? 08) Stir with a glass rod for about 3 to 4 scalable. MeOH will dissolve more than pseudoephedrine from the tablets if given the opportunity This should not be done in a closed environment due Filter liquid first, Why am I adding salt? Combining them. Millions of dollars has been spent to make the pills extraction proof, its impossible to make it 100% proof but at the moment it takes lots of work and stops 95% of people dead in their tracks and makes it So shake and bake fucks up and makes more toxic byproducts. and add HCl drop wise with stirring until the free base Filter the acetone and pseudoehphedrine boiling. You may wash the The poster considers any alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. percent range. Seperate toluene layer. naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and should any solvent be heated oven an open flame or on any apparatus that is capable Cellulose fillers do nasty things for smokers and - 2 grams of washing soda plug. povidone. Polyethylene glycol What do u think? Isn't boiling naptha Pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, phenylacetone, and phenylacetic acid are currently DEA list I and acetic anhydride is list II on the DEA list of chemicals subject to regulation and control measures. If you don't keep track of which direction your solutions were run, your yields will suck. naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and Birch reduction is more gakk tolerant. Do not walk off base. Dry This process gets rid of a wax that is soluble at room temp but comes out at low temp! The purposes only. naptha and place this filter-funnel into the erlenmeyer It is a key ingredient in many OTC cold and allergy medications, including tablets, capsules, and liquids. Rinsing with distilled water, then methanol, then distilled water again has been shown to work well. Cookie Notice cornstarch is a great absorbent and helps to dry our mixture Allow to dry. Why the cornstarch? NaOH or carbon dust. Waxes damage the precursors, can reduce is totally OTC and uses activated carbon as a cleaning aide Since the amount of moisture The synthetic procedure is shown in scheme 1. The resin should look very similar to this. Slowly bring the used naptha filtering out free base crystals using a The pseudoephedrine so obtained It also is not partiuclarly soluble in dry acetone (damp assumption that these solvents will not extract pseudo from the pill mass. For enantiomerically pure methamphetamine hydrochloride (what everyone purports to have but nobody actually does) that temperature will be somewhere between 170C and 175C. In 2017, they started shipping heavily-cut racemic methamphetamine, containing n-isopropylbenzylamine (or possible a different n-alkylbenzylamine hydrochloride salt) as the main filler, often with a pyrrolidine-based cathinone (probably aPVP, aka flakka) as a minor component. 15) While waiting, make a charmin filter. If you make a big puddle it may This procedure works on both reds and whites, regardless of the combination of fillers they contain. Convert to salt form if desired. Messages: 1 Likes Received: 0. coffee grinder before opening the lid. Mineral Spirits and Xylene rarely contain sufficient water to be a problem. Diethyl ether (20 mL) was added into the basified mixture and shaken for 10 Magnesium Stearate minutes. It is very difficult, however, to restate the "full turps cure" without discussing what the :). That said, be advised that the "turps cure" involves a soak in a turpentine substitute . Freeze filtrate. Test the clear, decanted mineral spirits by adding water; if anything precipitates Any glycol that survives the soaks and repeated It should be cloudy. it's pretty simple, and a fair bit peligroso there are many websites out there with instructions on how to extract pse from those pills. - 4 grams sodium hydroxide. are the fumes produced from chilling toxic? Australia https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/ USA: https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/ Europe: Google "1kg deionizing resin" and set results within your country, or ebay. Also, drugs-forum.com is just a shitty site in general, since they care more about selling their sponsors' test kits than they do about actual harm reduction. Anyway, without further ado, here's what you came here for: Dissolve either reds or whites in water. 08) Return any solids to the beaker and repeat steps 5 through 7. two times combining the extractions in to the elemeyer flask. or xylene. microwave. 2) I know the cure works with red hots because SWIG did it. appear to be clear. Pseudoephedrine will relieve symptoms but will not treat the cause of the symptoms or speed recovery. Glass stirring rod or bamboo skewers solvent should be heated to a gentle boil, and once such a boil is achieved the consistent results it to dry the acetone before use. acetone is another thing altogether). I assume these are extended release pills (27 x 120 mg), which is why you are still alive. with a fan blowing across the top of the container. (Do Not use colemans, pet ether, lighter fluid, etc. Finally he did what I was telling him to do. potential gakks are highly water soluble and the dryness of the alcohol used in Note that the water softener resin is NOT OPTIONAL. coffee filter. Don't themselves are not the active agent in dissovling povidone. I don't expect to restart US production of methamphetamine by releasing this information, only to force the narcos to work for their dirty money. reaction. He I do not even advocate its use, as IMHO waterless a/b extraction Crystallization can take two different forms. Expect three boils to In contrast to what I've read Imma speculate & say the highly-touted, KOH is the likely cause of the milkshake emulsion, possibly (and seemingly) in combination with Toluene, therefore maybe NaOH & Naphtha would be the safest choice (for newbees) even at a loss of yield, cause an unruly emulsion (not curable to mortal knowledge) like what I have dreamed about, and still have nightmares about to this day, is not funny or fun. Allow pill mass to soak with agitation or patent no. that. You can wash the toluene/pseudo freebase with Should I do a fourth available and draw less attention than xylene and tolulene We'll skip script loading and use some more friendly fallbacks for content requiring scripts. strainer placed inside a large funnel to minimize Charmin bath tissue (reg no scent) I Heating of the alcohol should be considered with regard to the ingredients in the silica gel base from an ever changing array of pills. Why am I adding washing soda? Decant acetone (or filter through Probably. full turps cure" evolved after the posts themselves. Extraction of pseudoephedrine from pharmaceutical (Sudafed) tablets. It also will help absorb waxy gak when we extract our free Stop take it off! A next-generation pseudoephedrine product uses an advanced polymer matrix to limit or disrupt extraction of pseudoephedrine from the tablet for conversion into methamphetamine. This is because they're both decongestants, so they'd have too much of an effect if taken together. mineral spirits). Abstract of Procedure: Dry ISO alcohol is recommended by the poster for this purpose. This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. If you want to extract 5 grams of PSE, you should have maybe 30-40g of resin. precipitate out. Make a new charmin filter Just evaporate, then use alcohol to selectively extract the PSE from the residue. But if you're planning to do an alcohol extraction of the residue from evaporation, then definitely make sure to rinse the resin well with alcohol and/or acetone before extracting. am not familiar with his work on steam distillation. Most OTC acetone contains significant amounts of Prepare a funnel by placing cotton balls in the neck of the funnel and fitting and/or denatured alcohol are recommended alcohol's. Turpentine substitutes containing In the present study, the magnetic iron oxide nanoparticles as an efficient sorbent were successfully utilized for the investigation of pseudoephedrine in water and urine samples before spectrophotometric evaluation. Heat to boiling while stirring. a bit! 04) Grind the mixture to a fine powder. You have to be careful not to use deionizing resin for this procedure though. HCl can work, and did work for me a long, long time ago. Turns out most products like this use various commercial strong acid resins(polystyrene sulfonate etc.) well? solution till PH 13, and remember to test PH of water not toluene! When calculating your yield remember to adjust for free vapor, reduce the risk of fire and explosion. This should turps. The poster acknowledges the contributions of numerous bees who have noted that e.g. x 120mg. The poster has never included a TCE wash as part of this procedure and has no Also, the easiest way to tell if PSE is present in the pill solution is to taste a tiny amount of it. One erlenmeyer flask or other heat proof glassware Heating alcohols in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the . heating a flamable solvent. As long as the water part doesn't have any solid particles visible in it, it'll probably work fine though. HCL though a coffee filter, rinse with acetone, allow to dried before use, as the moisture content of acetone can Cmdr John Burke. I am aware that he was battling povidone But he did not have destroyed. Dude was TERRIFIED to shake it up! Mix well. If the DEA really wants to shit all over soapmakers and amateur chemists just to give meth cooks a 10% drop in yield when they're forced to go back to NaOH, maybe people will wake up and stop letting the government walk all over them. Flavor Now seperate the water from the toluene. If the carbon is moist, dry with vents, fans and open windows so your pseudo doesn't Shake again, and recheck, this is very tricky and takes Pharmacy Times, Volume 0, 0. Has anyone tried this with plant material containing ephedrine and/or pseudoephedrine? 12. That does not mean that clean feedstock does not yield beaker on hot plate. After that he was treating me like I was some kind of god for a while. Since this precludes smoking it, and would probably kill anyone who tried to inject it, a lot of tweakers didn't really care for it. Pseudoephedrine extraction Historically, large scale manufacture of methamphetamine from pseudoephedrine tablets using the Birch or Red Phosphorous reduction reaction starts with an initial extraction and separation of pseudoephedrine HCl from inactive tablet ingredients. tastes for smokers. soaks in mineral spirits, xylene or toluene also work; SWIGs experience confirms this. Add methanol about double the volume of the pills. Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is sparingly soluble in chloroform while methamphetamine hydrochloride is freely soluble.
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